倒扁匯款帳號

[Viya]

最近聽說台灣政治轟轟烈烈，老實說我們家一直都挺綠，但其實我現在心裡後悔兩次總統都投阿扁，那兩槍真的讓我轉移了選票，我想很多台灣人都跟我一樣有憐憫心所致。最讓我不滿是他很會解釋：問東就說西，打死不承認，民進黨被他害慘。請問有人知道施明德提的百萬倒扁捐100元的帳戶是多少嗎？用轉帳承認嗎？因為我現在在國外讀書

[gump]

http://www.newtaiwan.org.tw/

不過我覺得奇怪，倒扁幹嘛還要捐錢出來？投票時我可沒投他，為何要他下台時得掏錢出來...

[best-url]

一位長輩只因為對於 阿扁 非常不滿就一次匯了 NT$4000

還將我的名字填上 連署 名單 -

最後, 怎麼用力都湊不足 40 個人名...

[Viya]

謝謝gump兄幫我查到！沒辦法，請不下來，聽說是要籌錢為了辦活動長期抗戰，或許哪天他有良心了？考慮為台灣下來

[kuer]

老施是群眾運動的好手，深知群眾運動如何搞
這100元，不是要錢，而是要對方以100元作為投票、授權、背書，以實質行為支援倒扁。

[seesawgame]

倒扁捐款如同潮水湧來　郵局匯款破2千萬

前民進黨主席施明德發起倒扁捐款活動後，民眾十分踴躍，全國捐款破2千萬元不說，民眾填單填到手酸、匯款單不敷使用等狀況更是層出不窮，連郵局人員都得將帳號背得滾瓜爛熟，以加快作業速度，捐款盛況驚人。
全文如下
http://tw.news.yahoo.com/article/url...5/17/24uk.html

[ras0314]

我比較想知道~~這筆錢會如何運用~~會不會被不當使用~~

[kuer]

作者: ras0314

我比較想知道~~這筆錢會如何運用~~會不會被不當使用~~

老施是那些理想主義者，不是那些後來上位當權的律師辯護團

全程透明運作，餘額捐獻學生營養餐

[seesawgame]

施明德先生是浪漫主義的雙魚座
我很喜歡他的問政風格，我覺得他是政治家，不是政客

[livekey]

艾琳達評施明德倒扁行動

At one time, Shih Ming-deh, personal name Nori, could claim credit for standing up against the dictatorship of the Kuomintang in the struggle to bring democracy to Taiwan. At the Kaohsiung Incident trials in March 1980 he made a brilliant argument that Taiwan had already been independent for thirty years. Chen Shui-bian entered his political life as a lawyer for the defendants then. I was proud to defend Nori's sacrifice in international human rights proclamations.

　在台灣邁向民主的艱辛歷程中，施明德曾經一度站起來對抗國民黨獨裁政權而受到讚揚尊崇。1980年3月，高雄事件審判時，他慷慨激昂地宣稱台灣已經獨立30年了。陳水扁當年由於為高雄事件的被告辯護，因而踏入政治圈。而我則有幸能參與施明德對世界人權宣言的奉獻。

　In 1992 Shih Ming-deh lost the election for chairman of the Democratic Progressive Party to Hsu Hsin-liang because Hsu bought a few dozen critical delegate votes, Nori told me; but he did not want to tear the party apart to fight it. My own interviews inside the party supported this. Elected in 1994, and then allied with New Tide (Hsin Chao-liu), Nori made some effort to reform the DPP internally, without success. In my view, after that Shih Ming-deh began to lose the idealism and clarity of purpose that had marked his earlier words and actions. His "coffee meeting" to make a deal with New Party in late 1995 was widely criticized as failing the cause of Taiwan independence, and in his defensive reaction he began to hobnob with former enemies, defenders of martial law such as James Soong (Soong Chu-yu), who as head of the Government Information Office in 1980 had vilified Shih.

　1992年，在民進黨主席選舉敗給許信良後，施明德告訴我這是因為許收買了幾十張關鍵的黨代表之故，但他不願分裂這個黨。我在黨內私下的訪談亦證實其所言不虛。爾後，他在1994年選上黨主席，並與新潮流結盟進行部分的黨內改革，只是功虧一簣。我認為，自此之後，施明德逐漸失去理想性以及過去備受推崇的執著目標。他在1995年底與新黨「喝咖啡」和解，更廣受批評為拋棄了台灣獨立的初衷。然而，他的反應卻是與1980年曾任新聞局長、主張戒嚴法、並極力詆毀他的昔日敵人宋楚瑜往來更加密切。

　Despite his earlier steeliness as a political prisoner for 25 years, or because of it, Shih Ming-deh's life habits did not do him well for the daily grind of administration as a legislator and party chairman, to my observation. A loner and a night-owl, he could not make office hours, or communicate systematically with his staff. Their dedication was mostly wasted. He was endlessly flattered by reporters and hangers-on, and addicted to women, drink, and cigarettes. I think it was this ineffectuality that left him to seek the limelight with statements that were striking but not team-coordinated. Lawyers such as Chen Shui-bian were used to written documents, hard work, early hours, and teamwork, and the lawyers soon upstaged him.

　雖然他早年堅忍不屈地入獄25年，或者正因為如此，他的生活習慣根本與立法委員或黨主席必須日理萬機的生活型態格格不入。他獨行俠和喜歡夜生活的作風，甚至無法讓他好好處理正事或與助理有條不紊地溝通。那些助理的貢獻幾乎白費，他則仍持續不斷地接受記者與追隨者的奉承，而且沉溺於女人、飲酒和香菸。我想，如果沒有團隊的努力，你根本不用指望他能夠說出像樣的話。另一方面，那時像陳水扁這些律師立委卻早已熟悉處理書面文件，而且全心投入、早睡早起、注重團隊合作，這些都讓施明德相形見絀。

　Shih's 1998 campaign as well as his 2001 unsuccessful bid for a legislative seat in Taipei was designed by Rising Peoples' (Hsing Hsin Min-zu) Foundation, Hsu Hsin-liang's organization, whose founding had been largely attended by liberal KMT figures. Shih did not support Chen Shui-bian's drive for the presidency in 2000. Among others, he gave a talk at Shih Hsin University sponsored by a New Party figure, and after presenting his philosophy of how he survived as a prisoner, he ended with pot shots at Chen. According to Lin Chung-mo, Lin got tired of Shih's grandstanding and thinking he could manipulate other DPP legislators, and Lin drove him out of the party caucus in 2000.

　施明德於1998年以及2001年問鼎國會失利的競選活動，都是由許信良的新興民族基金會在背後運作，而許信良的大部分資金卻是由國民黨某些自由派的人士資助。施明德那時並不贊成陳水扁競選2000年總統。某次，他接受一位新黨人士的安排赴世新大學演講，就在說明他如何熬過監牢的折磨之後，便大肆抨擊陳水扁。根據林重謨的說法，他實在看不慣施明德譁眾取寵的作風，而且顧慮到施可能影響其他民進黨立委，因此，便在2000年將施逐出黨團會議。

　This is a brief glimpse of how I think Shih Ming-deh has come to play the role he has taken up now; people are continually asking me this. There has been a clear pattern of the KMT using former DPP figures to attack the DPP; and the KMT, formerly the richest political party in the world, has the resources to make this ploy attractive.

　人們總是關注我對施明德這次所扮演角色的意見，以下概略說明了我對此事的看法。國民黨利用前民進黨主席修理民進黨，這早已司空見慣，而且國民黨──這個曾經是全世界最有錢的政黨──總有足夠的資源讓這件事更能鼓動人心。

　By now many years have passed, and although Shih Ming-deh sometime in the last year announced he was withdrawing from politics, he has now announced a campaign to unseat Chen Shui-bian, including the threat of extra-legal actions. Are we really to believe that Nori is doing this out of concern for the DPP and the highest of ideals? For the last six years at least his activities and announcements have seemed mysteriously coordinated with the interests of the Blue Forces, and even the Peoples First Party. PFP members, I was told, urged him to run for mayor of Kaohsiung, and provided the funding.

　雖然經過那麼多年，即使施明德去年曾經宣稱他正準備退出政壇，但是，他現在鼓吹倒扁運動，更揚言採取法律之外的行動。我們真的可以相信施明德如此做完全出自對民進黨的關懷，以及崇高的理想？過去6年來，至少他的一言一行或多或少都與藍營有關，甚至曾有人告訴我，就是親民黨慫恿並提供資金給他參選高雄市長。

　If he is so concerned about corruption, why hasn't he spoken out in the past on Soong's Chung Hsin case, or the issue of KMT party property? Or the Lafayette case?

　如果施如此嫌惡貪污，那麼，他過去為何從不對宋處瑜的興票案、國民黨的黨產問題或拉法葉說過半句話？

　If Shih Ming-deh is to set himself up as the center of a crusade against corruption, then I think it is fair to ask him to make public his own finances for the last several years, and to face whether he has any interests together with the Kuomintang, which has been trying to bring down the DPP government from the very start, for a variety of pretexts, the first being Nuclear Power Plant No. 4.

　如果施明德要將他自己設定為反貪運動的核心，那麼，我們可以合理要求他公開近幾年的財務狀況，以及嚴肅地看待他是否和國民黨有任何利益關係，而國民黨其實早在民進黨執政之初，即處心積慮找遍各種理由要推倒民進黨，第一個便是核四案。

　Corruption has been long ingrained in Taiwan society, down to the lowest levels, and the change of ruling parties has only begun to alter the rules. We cannot defend the DPP in general or the President in particular in so far as they have taken the easier route of continuing past habits, trying to buy off the obstacles, and perhaps even lining their own pockets with unearned rewards. But is campaigning for Chen Shui-bian to step down now, without use of the present mechanisms of impeachment or recall, any advance towards democracy and the rule of law? Does it test or improve the present legal system? Or would it be a step back to the KMT's former easy appropriation of state resources and assets, when Ma Ying-jeou becomes president?

　長久以來，貪污在台灣從上到下已根深蒂固，自從政黨輪替後，終於改變這個現象。我們並不能因為大部分民進黨人士，特別是總統，由於因循舊制、便宜行事，企圖收買甚至賄賂這些阻礙而為之辯白，然而，現在的反扁運動不採現有彈劾或罷免體制，就能提升民主或法治？這是要測試或改善目前的法律制度嗎？或者只是準備讓馬英九當選總統後，退回國民黨濫用國家資源及財產的時代？（譯註：因為不訴諸法律面，則下屆執政者可輕鬆規避法律程序？）

　So why does Shih Ming-deh again want to foray into political action? It seems anachronistic for him to raise a specter of revolution, when now finally the citizens can exercise their vote. Does he have a long-term vision of what he wants? Does he still stand for Taiwan's emergence as an internationally-recognized nation? Or has he abandoned the ideal that he sacrificed 25 years of his life for, too?

　那為何施明德突然要再次付諸政治行動呢？似乎是時代的錯誤，導致在人人都有投票權的今天，他卻意外擴張成假革命之名的怪獸。他到底是否有長遠的思考他到底要追求什麼？他還站在讓台灣成為國際公認的國家這一邊嗎？或者他早已背叛了他奉獻25年獄中生活的理想？

2006.08.15

施明德倒扁 前妻艾琳達批被藍軍收買

民進黨前主席施明德出面倒扁，他的前妻，同時也是長期從事民主運動的艾琳達，投書媒體強烈批判，施明德這麼做根本是在配合藍軍，背後的原因，艾琳達說，施明德可能早就有拿藍軍的錢，才會成為附屬品。再次見到艾琳達，她得意的秀出上禮拜才剛拿到的永久居留證，出生在美國，卻長期致力於台灣民主運動的她，這回再露面，是為了批判她的前夫，民進黨前主席施明德的倒扁行動。

不滿施明德配合國民黨使出一貫以民進黨前主席打民進黨的技倆，艾琳達特別寫了1篇文章，投書在專門評論時政的南方快報，更透露，施明德這幾年的資金來源，和藍軍大有關係。

除了資金來源，應該受到檢驗外，艾琳達更用墮落形容施明德私生活不夠檢點，曾經親密的夥伴關係，加上後來的長期觀察，艾琳達強調施明德的轉變，絕對不是一時。

但在她看來，施明德的倒扁，是假革命之名的怪獸，背棄了自己當年的理想。